[ Well, thank god that wasn't the memory that he got to watch, because he's already sat through two sets of gruesome murders and both times were sort of harrowing. ]
Why?
[ What causes a dog to go on a murderous rampage?? ]
...I'm not really sure, actually. I don't know if we ever really learned about that and if we did nobody's explained it to me yet. I just know he was angry and maybe he was supposed to fuck stuff up for our session? He apparently became a murderous asshole in at least three different timelines though.
[ Every new thing John says, Minato just wants to shake him and ask why this, wtf is this explanation that just opens up even more questions. ]
So, murderous is just his core personality regardless of the circumstances, huh...? [ I hope somebody apps Jack someday. ] Kind of makes me think about "that" life and "this" one being like different timelines. But not everybody acts the same in both.
[Welcome to his life, Minato. He opens his mouth like he's about to explain, but he pauses. There's something up and he stares blankly for a second as he seems to focus on somerthing else before he shakes his head.]
That is pretty similar, yeah. Jack was an agent of Derse which was the dark planet and he killed one set of royalty for whatever reason. I think the Black Queen and King must have ruled Derse? I don't know, I was Prospitian. Anyway in one of the other games, he was actually an ally but in ours he decided to destroy pretty much everything. Same guy, two sets of circumstances. That is how timelines work or something like it. [i.e. he just remembered, thanks for the memory bro.]
[ ??? He would like to be calmly escorted out of this life please.
It looks like John's checked out for a moment too, but then he's back and starts talking again and half the words still don't make sense. Minato picks up what he can, though, reasoning that Jack went around killing royalty in another country, something about a game, and then... And then he's lost, unable to imagine any ally of John's going around committing regicide when John seems to him like the sort of person that would do all he can to stop that. ]
...Sorry, still hard to understand any of that. What happened so wrong that made him not be an ally in your... game.
I'm not sure. [There's an apologetic grin.] Sorry, I know it sounds really complicated and that's because it is. I still do not entirely understand all of it myself, but the way it was explained to me was like having two people playing the same video game. I think the analogy we used was I had my player character and a friend had his player character. They were the same character, but different things happened to them in our separate sessions of the game that changed who they were. So it was never said why exactly he went crazy and killed the king and queen. To my knowledge, we'd never even met him before he started doing all of that.
Our session was pretty messed up to begin with though. It's why we had to scratch and start over.
The analogy helps, though, and he can see what John means by having the same default game, but like any good rpg, actions dictate the flow of the game and has direct impact on what happens, regardless of how little the player choice was between him and his friend. Still, ally to regicide is a huge change. ]
But rather than an actual game, it's your life, isn't it? How does one get a second chance at life? [ For real, how does he get one? There are a lot of little things that he'd like a second chance at, but to restart a life... ] ...You wouldn't exist anymore. It'd be like dying.
Exactly. It's hard to say how exactly Sburb worked, but it was a game we were all playing to make a new universe or something. It wasn't exactly like...[...wait.] Are you talking about playing the game in general, or the part that you saw I was definitely dead and came back to life? Because those are kind of connected but they are still circumstantial.
Um... I guess in general. Like how our lives in this universe are apparently a restart of our lives elsewhere. If there was a way to start all over again, create a new set of lives where there is no Retrospec...
[ Essentially playing god. It's pointless, though, because whatever John did in Sburb probably wouldn't apply here anymore. Or yet. Whichever. ]
...I'm not sure. I know it is possible to create new universes because we have seen that happen back there, and we advanced in our lives and stuff back then. So I think maybe there must be a way even if it's not the way we did it. It's the only thing I can think that makes sense.
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[ Well, thank god that wasn't the memory that he got to watch, because he's already sat through two sets of gruesome murders and both times were sort of harrowing. ]
Why?
[ What causes a dog to go on a murderous rampage?? ]
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So, murderous is just his core personality regardless of the circumstances, huh...? [ I hope somebody apps Jack someday. ] Kind of makes me think about "that" life and "this" one being like different timelines. But not everybody acts the same in both.
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That is pretty similar, yeah. Jack was an agent of Derse which was the dark planet and he killed one set of royalty for whatever reason. I think the Black Queen and King must have ruled Derse? I don't know, I was Prospitian. Anyway in one of the other games, he was actually an ally but in ours he decided to destroy pretty much everything. Same guy, two sets of circumstances. That is how timelines work or something like it. [i.e. he just remembered, thanks for the memory bro.]
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It looks like John's checked out for a moment too, but then he's back and starts talking again and half the words still don't make sense. Minato picks up what he can, though, reasoning that Jack went around killing royalty in another country, something about a game, and then... And then he's lost, unable to imagine any ally of John's going around committing regicide when John seems to him like the sort of person that would do all he can to stop that. ]
...Sorry, still hard to understand any of that. What happened so wrong that made him not be an ally in your... game.
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Our session was pretty messed up to begin with though. It's why we had to scratch and start over.
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The analogy helps, though, and he can see what John means by having the same default game, but like any good rpg, actions dictate the flow of the game and has direct impact on what happens, regardless of how little the player choice was between him and his friend. Still, ally to regicide is a huge change. ]
But rather than an actual game, it's your life, isn't it? How does one get a second chance at life? [ For real, how does he get one? There are a lot of little things that he'd like a second chance at, but to restart a life... ] ...You wouldn't exist anymore. It'd be like dying.
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[ Essentially playing god. It's pointless, though, because whatever John did in Sburb probably wouldn't apply here anymore. Or yet. Whichever. ]
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[There's a lot that isn't being said here, but.]